[Gslug-general] ISPs

[Paul Bartell]

Eh. Well.. .Verizon is no angel company either. Frankly, i think
blocking inbound port 80 traffic is a crime, even if its not a
business plan. Bascially, they are all evil. Speakeasy might be more
expensive (IS more expensive) but well worth it.

Frankly, im saddened that ADSL2 hasent caught on. We dont need fiber
networks yet, and upgrading to fiber is an un needed cost. I cant see
people needing more than 24mbps (downstreme), at least in the next 7
years. (after that all bets are off and the internet will probably be
so congested it will be unusable.)

I think this thread attests to the US' telecom problem. In greece, and
probably elsewhere in the world, I can get 20mbit/1mbit ADSL for less
than $30 a month. (20 euros). There are so many ISPs to choose from
that there is actually competition. This contrasts to a few years ago
when DSL was limited to being provided only by the state owned telecom
(which is no longer state owned), and in which speeds were much lower.
When competition exists, the people simply do better, but when
companies have monopolies, it simply hurts the people.



On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Jonathan Nicol <jnicol at bluegecko.net> wrote:
> As I understand it, we don't have FiOS in Seattle because Qwest has a
> monopoly agreement with the city. The City was considering a public network,
> or a public/private venture, no idea what's happening with this recently.
>
> http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2004293823_brier20.html
> http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/227127_qwest04.html
> http://blog.seattletimes.nwsource.com/brierdudley/2008/03/seattle_fiber_broadband_plans.html
>
> At the rate things appear to be moving, we'll have Wimax (XOHM) long before
> FTTP...
>
> In the meantime, I'm very happy with Speakeasy DSL, which should be
> available anywhere you can get Qwest DSL
>
> Jonathan
>
>
> On Jan 14, 2009, at 2:28 PM, Jack T Mudge III wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday 14 January 2009 01:33:52 pm zjacreman wrote:
>>>
>>> No Comcast, no Qwest, in this state that basically means you're getting
>>> a Speakeasy line.
>>>
>>> It's worth checking to see If Verizon has moved into your neighborhood
>>> with FiOS, but that's a pretty small subset of neighborhoods.
>>
>> Well, we get our land line through Qwest, and according to the Verizon rep
>> I
>> talked to awhile ago, that means, basically, it's impossible for them to
>> install FiOS here, sadly. :(
>>
>> Other than that, google seems to confirm it... speakeasy has T1 here but
>> not
>> much else, so I guess it's the choice of a lesser of an evil (comcast) and
>> a
>> hassle (qwest), and I'll take the hassle.
>>
>> Thanks for the help :)
>>
>> --
>> Sincerely,
>> Jack Mudge
>> jakykong at theanythingbox.com
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