<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">Hi Jack: I am using this in Beijing China. After MUCH discussion with the engineer, it turns out to be a bug in the software. Apparently, Suse is new to China with PPPoE, so I guess I am the guinee pig for Suse. The issue was elevated to level 3 and is now being examined at the head Suse office in Neurenberg (if I got all my facts straight). One thing for sure, Suse is VERY userfriendly. (please don't tell me I have to type something in at the command line, if I do, I send it back to redesign) So it may take a few more days to resolve.<br><br>other notes of interest: If I understand correctly, Federor and Ubunto and the two most popular distros. The Suse tech told me that Suse is geared for the business and home user such as myself (I have a degree in electrical engineering; and teach business and finance at
the local English school in Beijing China if you can believe that). He said that Ubunto and Federor was geared to the techical people. Is that correct?<br>Donald<br><br><br><br><br>--- On <b>Wed, 10/1/08, gslug-general-request@gslug.org <i><gslug-general-request@gslug.org></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;">From: gslug-general-request@gslug.org <gslug-general-request@gslug.org><br>Subject: Gslug-general Digest, Vol 13, Issue 1<br>To: gslug-general@gslug.org<br>Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 10:29 AM<br><br><pre>Send Gslug-general mailing list submissions to<br> gslug-general@gslug.org<br><br>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br> http://lists.ifokr.org/mailman/listinfo/gslug-general<br>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br> gslug-general-request@gslug.org<br><br>You can reach the person
managing the list at<br> gslug-general-owner@gslug.org<br><br>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>than "Re: Contents of Gslug-general digest..."<br><br><br>Today's Topics:<br><br> 1. Re: Businesses that use Linux (Rob Willenberg)<br> 2. Re: Businesses that use Linux (Chuck Wolber)<br> 3. Re: Businesses that use Linux (Chuck Wolber)<br> 4. Re: Businesses that use Linux (Chuck Wolber)<br> 5. Re: Businesses that use Linux (Ian Gallagher)<br> 6. Re: Businesses that use Linux (John Locke)<br> 7. Re: Businesses that use Linux (Francois Caen)<br> 8. Re: connecting to internet with PPPoE (Jack)<br> 9. Job: Perl/SQL/Web Developer with iFloor.com (Chris Petersen)<br><br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Message: 1<br>Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 16:05:27 -0700<br>From: Rob Willenberg <rob@willenbergs.com><br>Subject: Re: [Gslug-general] Businesses that use
Linux<br>To: james michael <jamesthefishy@gmail.com><br>Cc: "gslug-general@gslug.org" <gslug-general@gslug.org><br>Message-ID: <4C6E631D-FCAD-4414-A822-6E9F1EC324F3@willenbergs.com><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br><br>Lowes uses Linux based POS systems.<br><br><br><br>On Sep 30, 2008, at 4:00 PM, james michael <jamesthefishy@gmail.com> <br>wrote:<br><br>> Actually all he said was non-tech businesses that use linux and <br>> nothing about open source or free anything. He said, Desktop linux <br>> uses with REI does allow their employees to use any type of computer <br>> of their choice as long as they can be productive on it.<br>><br>> Francois Caen wrote:<br>>><br>>> On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 2:57 PM, james michael<br><jamesthefishy@gmail.com <br>>> > wrote:<br>>><br>>>> I think REI uses linux, i know they use mac and we all know thats
<br><br>>>> basically<br>>>> linux. Unix-like.<br>>>><br>>> Wow... Someone needs a reminder on the core concepts of Free / Open <br>>> Software...<br>>> :-)<br>>><br>><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Gslug-general mailing list<br>> Gslug-general@gslug.org<br>> http://lists.gslug.org/mailman/listinfo/gslug-general<br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL:<br>http://lists.ifokr.org/pipermail/gslug-general/attachments/20080930/1aa1794c/attachment.htm<br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 2<br>Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:31:20 -0700 (PDT)<br>From: Chuck Wolber <chuckw@quantumlinux.com><br>Subject: Re: [Gslug-general] Businesses that use Linux<br>To: Paul Bartell <paul-bartell@ubuntu.com><br>Cc: james michael<br><jamesthefishy@gmail.com>, "gslug-general@gslug.org"<br>
<gslug-general@gslug.org><br>Message-ID:<br> <Pine.LNX.4.64.0809302127290.12197@tachyon.quantumlinux.com><br>Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII<br><br>On Tue, 30 Sep 2008, Paul Bartell wrote:<br><br>> A surprising number of POS systems are linux based. You might also <br>> mention that Airplane Entertainment systems run on linux (it was a good <br>> day to see a penguin while the screen in the seatback was lighting up)<br><br>I can vouch for the fact that Linux is on more than just IFE (In-Flight <br>Entertainment) systems. Adam Monsen and I developed the embedded Linux <br>operating system for an airplane based router that's flying on more than a <br>few Boeing 777-300 aircraft.<br><br>..Chuck..<br><br>-- <br>http://www.quantumlinux.com<br> Quantum Linux Laboratories, LLC.<br> ACCELERATING Business with Open Technology<br><br>"An idea does not gain truth as it gains followers."<br> -Amanda
Bloom<br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 3<br>Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:25:00 -0700 (PDT)<br>From: Chuck Wolber <chuckw@quantumlinux.com><br>Subject: Re: [Gslug-general] Businesses that use Linux<br>To: james michael <jamesthefishy@gmail.com><br>Cc: gslug-general@gslug.org<br>Message-ID:<br> <Pine.LNX.4.64.0809302123100.12197@tachyon.quantumlinux.com><br>Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII<br><br>On Tue, 30 Sep 2008, james michael wrote:<br><br>> I think REI uses linux, i know they use mac and we all know thats <br>> basically linux. Unix-like.<br><br>REI is an AIX shop. And by "unix-like" I think you mean<br>"POSIX".<br><br>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POSIX<br><br>..Chuck..<br><br><br>-- <br>http://www.quantumlinux.com<br> Quantum Linux Laboratories, LLC.<br> ACCELERATING Business with Open Technology<br><br>"An idea does not gain truth as it gains followers."<br> -Amanda
Bloom<br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 4<br>Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:26:42 -0700 (PDT)<br>From: Chuck Wolber <chuckw@quantumlinux.com><br>Subject: Re: [Gslug-general] Businesses that use Linux<br>To: james michael <jamesthefishy@gmail.com><br>Cc: gslug-general@gslug.org<br>Message-ID:<br> <Pine.LNX.4.64.0809302126080.12197@tachyon.quantumlinux.com><br>Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII<br><br>On Tue, 30 Sep 2008, james michael wrote:<br><br>> I would consider Solaris and AIX unix-like because you all forget unix <br>> wasn't free to begin with. In fact they are more unix-like then linux<br><br>> because of the fact that linux is a clone where AIX is still has code <br>> from the 70's on it.<br><br>When you say "unix like" what you really mean is POSIX.<br><br>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POSIX<br><br>..Chuck..<br><br><br><br>-- <br>http://www.quantumlinux.com<br> Quantum Linux
Laboratories, LLC.<br> ACCELERATING Business with Open Technology<br><br>"An idea does not gain truth as it gains followers."<br> -Amanda Bloom<br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 5<br>Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 22:35:19 -0700<br>From: "Ian Gallagher" <crash@neg9.org><br>Subject: Re: [Gslug-general] Businesses that use Linux<br>To: "Chuck Wolber" <chuckw@quantumlinux.com><br>Cc: gslug-general@gslug.org, james michael <jamesthefishy@gmail.com><br>Message-ID:<br> <4b5c15340809302235h3b9ea638g4c8ce574b08cb773@mail.gmail.com><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br><br>Does anyone know of any companies using Linux on the desktop that fit this<br>non-technical description? I think with the ways Linux is going now a days,<br>that's the (one of the) intended purpose, so it'd be great to see that<br>in<br>the field somewhere.<br><br>I'm by no means discounting the fact that Linux is in use in many of
these<br>"behind the scenes" areas, that's great, but part of it's<br>greatness is also<br>due to the fact that it can perform perfectly with no one knowing it's<br>there, that it's Linux, or otherwise. Conscious use of Linux from<br>day-to-day<br>in a business would be another story, which I hope we can uncover.<br><br>I know there was a talk a while back from a couple who setup their<br>Attorney's office with all Linux - could the two of you chime in here and<br>recap how all of that's working out for you?<br><br><br>Thanks!<br>-Ian<br><br>On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 9:26 PM, Chuck Wolber<br><chuckw@quantumlinux.com>wrote:<br><br>> On Tue, 30 Sep 2008, james michael wrote:<br>><br>> > I would consider Solaris and AIX unix-like because you all forget<br>unix<br>> > wasn't free to begin with. In fact they are more unix-like then<br>linux<br>> > because of the fact that linux is a clone where AIX is still has code<br>> >
from the 70's on it.<br>><br>> When you say "unix like" what you really mean is POSIX.<br>><br>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POSIX<br>><br>> ..Chuck..<br>><br>><br>><br>> --<br>> http://www.quantumlinux.com<br>> Quantum Linux Laboratories, LLC.<br>> ACCELERATING Business with Open Technology<br>><br>> "An idea does not gain truth as it gains followers."<br>> -Amanda Bloom<br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Gslug-general mailing list<br>> Gslug-general@gslug.org<br>> http://lists.gslug.org/mailman/listinfo/gslug-general<br>><br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL:<br>http://lists.ifokr.org/pipermail/gslug-general/attachments/20080930/f403d7a7/attachment.html<br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 6<br>Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 08:37:09 -0700<br>From: John Locke <freelocke@gmail.com><br>Subject:
Re: [Gslug-general] Businesses that use Linux<br>To: Chuck Wolber <chuckw@quantumlinux.com><br>Cc: gslug-general@gslug.org, james michael <jamesthefishy@gmail.com><br>Message-ID: <48E39925.3040000@gmail.com><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<br><br>Chuck Wolber wrote:<br>> On Tue, 30 Sep 2008, james michael wrote:<br>><br>> <br>>> I think REI uses linux, i know they use mac and we all know thats <br>>> basically linux. Unix-like.<br>>> <br>><br>> REI is an AIX shop. And by "unix-like" I think you mean<br>"POSIX".<br>><br>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POSIX<br>><br>> ..Chuck..<br>><br>><br>> <br>Actually, I can confirm that REI is not a Linux shop. I have a friend<br>who's one of their IT leads, and they've been moving everything to<br>Windows, aside from a thriving group of Mac users. My friend does<br>nothing but Mac support these days... but the vast
majority of the<br>company uses Windows. They are piloting a bit of Linux here and there,<br>though, so there is some hope... Not sure what their POS system uses,<br>but my guess is that probably used to be AIX and is being moved to<br>Windows...<br><br>We support Linux servers at around 40 companies pretty directly these<br>days. None, unfortunately (besides us) uses Linux desktops on a regular<br>basis. We tried converting an HR/accounting company to some thin<br>clients, but they used Quickbooks extensively enough that it didn't<br>stick--along with some pretty sophisticated Excel spreadsheets they<br>shared with clients that wouldn't convert to OpenOffice... (spreadsheets<br>or clients...)<br><br>Cheers,<br><br>-- <br>John Locke<br>Manager, Freelock Computing<br>The Open Source for Business Solutions<br>Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/freelock<br>http://www.freelock.com<br><br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message:
7<br>Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 09:30:02 -0700<br>From: "Francois Caen" <frcaen@gmail.com><br>Subject: Re: [Gslug-general] Businesses that use Linux<br>To: gslug-general@gslug.org<br>Message-ID:<br> <58cfe2840810010930k3ce8e0a5sa5b43e0a55c3d9d1@mail.gmail.com><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<br><br>On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 8:37 AM, John Locke <freelocke@gmail.com> wrote:<br>> We tried converting an HR/accounting company to some thin<br>> clients, but they used Quickbooks extensively enough that it didn't<br>> stick--<br><br>John, why do you think these users weren't happy with the thin linux<br>client connected to a central terminal server model? They could run<br>Quickbooks and Excel on the server just the same, right?<br><br>-- <br>Francois Caen<br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 8<br>Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 22:29:16 -0700<br>From: "Jack" <Jack@jakykong.homelinux.com><br>Subject: Re:
[Gslug-general] connecting to internet with PPPoE<br>To: gslug-general@gslug.org<br>Message-ID: <200809302229.16677.jakykong@theanythingbox.com><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br><br>On Tuesday 30 September 2008 05:30:20 pm Donald G wrote:<br>> I have Suse SLED v 10. I have a PPPoE connection that requires user name<br>> and password. How do I connect to internet?<br>><br>> I found the following help file, however, It is written for linux<br>> engineers. Can someone translate?<br>><br>><br>http://lifestory-eng.blogspot.com/2008/07/how-to-connect-to-internet-by-ppp<br>>oe-kde.html<br><br>If you are using debian/ubuntu (maybe others, but I know in debian and <br>ubuntu), you can use the pppoeconf package. I use it to connect to Qwest DSL. <br>Just install the package and run "pppoeconf", and it'll set it<br>all up for <br>you. (note: pppoeconf must be run from the command line)<br><br>--
<br>Sincerely,<br>Jack Mudge<br>jakykong@theanythingbox.com<br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 9<br>Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 10:26:42 -0700<br>From: Chris Petersen <lists@forevermore.net><br>Subject: [Gslug-general] Job: Perl/SQL/Web Developer with iFloor.com<br>To: gslug-general@gslug.org<br>Message-ID: <48E3B2D2.9060100@forevermore.net><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed<br><br>Posting this as a favor to fill the position I just left. iFloor's a <br>great company to work for, and the work is pretty <br>interesting/challenging, with a lot of opportunity for developer input <br>into design decisions, etc.<br><br>Please reply to <kevinsonney(a)ifloor.com> if you're interested.<br><br>-Chris<br><br><br>== Description ==<br><br>iFLOOR started back in 1998 and grew into the largest online retailer of<br>flooring in the country. In an effort to grow the business even further,<br>iFLOOR has
rolled out 38 stores across 16 states over the past 2 years.<br>iFLOOR has strong growth potential. It is privately held and venture<br>backed.<br><br>iFLOOR runs off a proprietary business software package called<br>Parsimony. Parsimony is developed in Perl and is responsible for all<br>critical business operations including sales, ordering, fulfillment,<br>inventory control, customer relationship management, statistics, website<br>operations, time keeping, and accounting. Parsimony is responsible for<br>the success of the company and enables others to do their job.<br><br>== Requirements ==<br><br>We're looking to take Parsimony to the next level and are seeking a<br>Front End Software Developer to get it there. You should:<br><br>* Have strong business judgment. You will be interacting with senior<br> level management to understand their problems and develop solutions<br> that address their needs. If you understand the business value of the<br>
code you're writing, that will help immensely.<br><br>* Be proficient in Perl. Parsimony is written in Perl and at the time of<br> this job description is almost 350,000 lines of Perl. Even if you<br> choose to write something in another language, you'll need to be able<br> to read everything that the original code base does and understand it.<br><br>* Be familiar with SQL. Parsimony relies on an SQL database for its<br> backend storage. You should be familiar enough with SQL or willing to<br> pick it up.<br><br>* Be comfortable in a Linux environment. All software is developed in<br> Linux.<br><br>* Experience with Subversion, Template Toolkit and other development<br> tools.<br><br>* Understanding of SEO and SEO fundamentals.<br><br>== There are many benefits to working at iFLOOR: ==<br><br>* Fast development cycles. iFLOOR is a startup and you're surrounded by<br> people that are willing to try new things. If you're looking to<br>
develop something and launch quickly, then iFLOOR is the place for<br> you.<br><br>* High impact. Parsimony enables people throughout the company to do<br> their job. As such, any development that you do is valued and helps<br> drive the business even further.<br><br>* Empowerment: You will work on the front end side of Parsimony which<br> drives iFLOOR.com and web sales.<br><br>* Solid foundation. Despite being a startup, there is an IT group in<br> place that handles networking, data center, and helpdesk. You won't<br> be troubleshooting the basics which will allow you to focus on<br> development.<br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Gslug-general mailing list<br>Gslug-general@gslug.org<br>http://lists.ifokr.org/mailman/listinfo/gslug-general<br><br>End of Gslug-general Digest, Vol 13, Issue
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